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Ted Kennedy is gone

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Wow, yup. I get breaking news on BT first sometimes. <NT> plasticraft New

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Yep. Did he manage to change the succession rules back before he passed away? <NT> rlhartman New

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DEATH: one of the things he couldn't buy his way out of. <NT> rroberts New

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very compassionate and christian like of you Mr. Roberts kindyakker New

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Why? I am truly sorry he died the way he did. I would not wish that on anyone, but if you expect... rroberts New

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You're doing the opposite of deifying snowwrestler New

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I merely pointout the truth <NT> rroberts New

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It is factually incorrect to say that he accomplished nothing in the Senate <NT> snowwrestler New

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cheap shot <NT> Clean.Run New

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Adam, when i think of everything wrong with american politics, the names Ted Kennedy, Gingrich... rroberts New

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Really? So you just don't like partisanship? Clean.Run New

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kennedy really ticked off the conservatives roscoepwavetrain New

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name one accomplisment of his. <NT> rroberts New

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He's an excellent swimmer. SirFlipsALot New

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and touch football. <NT> rroberts New

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Hmm. My innuendo might have been a little vague. Prolly for the best. SirFlipsALot New

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oh... he got it decker New

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Lets see...Medicare, minimum wage increases, American with Disabilities act, SCHIP, COBRA, Americorp otto New

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Yeah, evidently all that gets you a ticket to hell on this board. SirFlipsALot New

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the ADA sure helped concrete workers....... tomcat New

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LOL! Where are you? I use them every single day when I pull my daughter with my bike trailer. SirFlipsALot New

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not about you and dtr.....how many times have you seen a disabled person use them? <NT> tomcat New

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hundreds... rustyboater New

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Plenty. Irregardless, I think anybody in an urban area would say they find them useful. Think of something else, like SirFlipsALot New

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yep...those too....too much misuse and no enforcement against abusers...... tomcat New

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I'll enforce it with my key on their door. <NT> SirFlipsALot New

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I worked with folks in wheelchairs for a while. They like 'em and use 'em. peterelkon New

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Medicare passed in 1965 lrcable New

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And was revised numerous times since snowwrestler New

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His "effectiveness" was more about longevity than any special talent lrcable New

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I'll give him this: Kennedy was considered to have just about the best Senatorial staff on the Hill <NT> rlhartman New

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not only his staff... but his liver and kidneys as well decker New

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Hey Rick , name a few of your accomplishments kindyakker New

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ohhh, a biting comment. i have none. never claimed any. never had money to buy my way out of trouble either... rroberts New

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I had to face them on youtube yesterday! Nice! SirFlipsALot New

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The Kennedys sacrificed a lot more than the average family. <NT> SirFlipsALot New

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True. But what does that have to do with Ted's accomplishments?... rroberts New

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"only in a different direction". Well, that's the whole point then, isn't it? <NT> SirFlipsALot New

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Time for you to eat some crow. Helly New

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True. Ted was an elected hazck out of the same bolt of cloth rove was. You can like his direction... rroberts New

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Like the guy or not, your position is obvious but don't claim he never accomplished anything. <NT> Helly New

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interesting, exactly what elected office did Rove hold? roscoepwavetrain New

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none and comparing one political party hack to another is spot on. You may like what Ted did to his... rroberts New

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that is total bullshit. rustyboater New

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Oh. you mean it's different because you like rove's victims and didn't like Ted's victims. <NT> rroberts New

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not at all. this isn't an us vs them argument. <NT> rustyboater New

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Who are these victims you keep harping on about? <NT> Helly New

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those who opposed him politically. <NT> rroberts New

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I need names <NT> Helly New

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Well...Mary Jo gave her life for his political ambitions. there's one. <NT> rroberts New

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Well I knew you'd say Mary JoAnd but that's just a diversion. You keep claiming there are all theses others, so please.. Helly New

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Ah. so you think Mary Jo's life was too trivial for mentioning. And they tell me I'm heartless for not... rroberts New

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Ever heard the term "one trick pony"? <NT> Helly New

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Mary Jo isn't a pony. She's a clydesdale. <NT> rroberts New

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a guy who serves in the senate for 40 years isn't a "hack" roscoepwavetrain New

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give me a break. 40 years in the Senate requires political machinery. clout. Savy... rroberts New

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It requires all those things, but peterelkon New

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rroberts is a kennedy hater, period. case closed roscoepwavetrain New

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Just as it's hard to get past MJ's pedophilia, it's hard to forget Chapwithaquickdick. <NT> ezwater New

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I remember watching Richard Nixon's funeral on t.v. with my dad... decker New

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missed my post about Bobby, eh? <NT> rroberts New

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Political machinery isn't enough. remember tom daschel? Helly New

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The Kennedy family name is to some... the same as Reagan is to others. decker New

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yes. that IS true. there was good in Ted. I just dislike the deification process.... rroberts New

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Now that, I'd fight. peterelkon New

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<pauses in chiseling of marble portrait. sighs. goes to lunch> <NT> SirFlipsALot New

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calling respect for the dead police.....sic em rosco yeaboy New

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this link says it all... rroberts New

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Ted Kennedy was, without a doubt, a flawed man. peterelkon New

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well said roscoepwavetrain New

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They kept him in office because he relentlessly destroyed all those who opposed him. <NT> rroberts New

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You're repeating yourself. Breathe deep, relax, and think of bracing up in the falls. peterelkon New

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as are so many of the ambitious broam New

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There's a good deal of truth in that... b6 New

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mark me down as "for" term limits for all political positions...local, state and national..... tomcat New

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Term limits have their own limits b6 New

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I agree that "lobbying" needs to be criminalized....add that to term limits and then we'll have real change..... tomcat New

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Woah! No way I want lobbying to be criminalized... b6 New

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but tommy... do you really think the republicans in this instance our looking out for you behalf? decker New

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Yes, let's criminalize lobbying. Who cares about that pesky 1st Amendment <NT> snowwrestler New

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so you support bought-for influence?....yea, that's free speech buddy <NT> tomcat New

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Right to petition government for redress of grievances snowwrestler New

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you forgot to put "and influence is purchased" on the end of that. <NT> decker New

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"Most lobbying does not involve much money" ?? b6 New

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Those are the top 20; but there are well over 12,000 registered lobbyists in DC snowwrestler New

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It's not about the number. It's about the money. b6 New

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But most lobbyists don't give much money to legislators snowwrestler New

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Really? Max Bacus #1 campaign contributor: Schering-Plough Corp $76,200 b6 New

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http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/pubfund.shtml decker New

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Ohhhhhhhh, but Teddy was wonderful because his last name was "Kennedy"... rroberts New

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No Sen. Kennedy was great because he actually gave a damn about people... b6 New

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And for his "care for the common man"... rroberts New

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No doubt, seniority helps you bring home the bacon. peterelkon New

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It's just as wrong to over-demonize someone as it is to overpraise snowwrestler New

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I wonder what the black helicopter crowd will drum up since B.O. just happened to be there the same week mtnsport New

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Hell just got a little more crowded... P1PN8EZ New

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Just remeber your marshmallow stick when your time comes. peterelkon New

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He'll prolly be the one working the store that sells the marshmallows P1PN8EZ New

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whether or not he is going to Hell is not up to me. Personally, I hope he doesn't end up there. <NT> rroberts New

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"Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and say why not." decker New

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Bobby was the only one of the bunch that was worth a damn. and he would have been one of the greatest presidents ever. <NT> rroberts New

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your emotions have clouded your reason...pull back from the keyboard!!! <NT> rustyboater New

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Why? Other than you don't think I should be saying something you don't like to hear. <NT> rroberts New

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try a little class... rustyboater New

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oh, you want me to lie about a guy I never like and never respected? all this reminds me of... rroberts New

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yeah right, it's your first amendment right... rustyboater New

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and you? <NT> rroberts New

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what about me? rustyboater New

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you throw rocks at me then rail on me for throwing them back at you? <NT> rroberts New

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are you dead? rustyboater New

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You don't need to be awed and enthralled. Just don't be ignorant snowwrestler New

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All I've heard today is what a wonder man he was and how he did nothing but good.... rroberts New

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The truth is somewhere between what you're reading, and what you're posting <NT> snowwrestler New

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exactly. <NT> Clean.Run New

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Oh come on!! You gotta at least give JFK some props for nailing Marilyn Monroe! <NT> SirFlipsALot New

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Angie dickenson too. <NT> rroberts New

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Really. Hmm. Ok, one prop for that. I guess. <NT> SirFlipsALot New

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R.I.P. Ted Kennedy. DangerJudy New

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THAT I can agree with. <NT> rroberts New

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R.I.P. Mary Jo <NT> steviej New

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didn't take long for the hate train to leave the station on that one! rustyboater New

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its just rroberts riding by throwing poo roscoepwavetrain New

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Speakin of yeaboy... SirFlipsALot New

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yowza roscoepwavetrain New

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funny thing..... yeaboy New

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Well said. b6 New

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I don't or didn't hate him. I just refuse to accept him as Obama's John the Baptist! <NT> rroberts New

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your point? rustyboater New

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You don't hate him? Helly New

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I don't hate him. i neither liked nor respected him. that's different than hate. <NT> rroberts New

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The issue here might be more with your timing than your opinion. SirFlipsALot New

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I got ripped up a year ago when i expressed the same. <NT> rroberts New

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PS On a side note, if you ever get brain cancer you should start making final arrangements.. SirFlipsALot New

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Lance did. DangerJudy New

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Lance didn't have brain cancer. He had testicular cancer which metastasized to the brain DRRPM New

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He got alot done in govt and worked with both sides, unlike most today. He is emblematic why we DONT need term limits Gnar_Star New

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