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BoaterTalk: The International Information Site for the Whitewater Paddler
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[[[---Informal Poll---]]] A.W. (American Whitewater) "Good" or "Bad" ???
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LiquidLounge
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Jul 11 2008, 18:45 GMT
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decker
fwiw... i am NOT a member (currently or in the past)
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They lump rafters with OC and C1, so they can't be all bad.
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rroberts
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who do they lump "swimmers" with?
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decker
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Swimmers is usually associated with being the next rapid after dimple.
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rroberts
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What do they do?
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TheBroncoKid
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take money and talk about it in their monthly pamphlet apparently
decker
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While I deeply resent being lumped in with Rafters
Stifler
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I wish that they paid more attention to poor old class II-III boaters.
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HollyHock
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If we write about class 2-3, and advocate for class 2-3 rivers, AW will respond. It's up to us.
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ezwater
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yeah... lot'sa chest thumping
decker
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good luck with that - you see what happens here when someone posts a II-III TR
k1chik
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I haven't really noticed that. Maybe it depends on who posts one, and how.
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ezwater
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And does that mean that Ocoee TRs are routinely ridiculed?
ezwater
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how many Ocoee TR's do you see over there?
k1chik
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Maybe the TR posters are touchy. On BT, you get poked for many things.... "planning" boats, oc-1s, etc etc.
ezwater
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Any trip Dick was on needs a TR done, Standing up in a Blue Hole thru Hells Hole is a TR in itself
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Louie
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On that trip, the reason Dick was paddling standing up was he blew out both gunwales pinning in Gonzo Shoals, and
ezwater
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Dick and Doopey have on the lower, but they are still kinda funny on the upper.
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Louie
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They do lots of good things in the PNW
tomrefried
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I think highly enough of them to have...
Oci-One.Kanubi
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Yeah, I need to re-up for another five years. But is there a death benefit?
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ezwater
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Yeh. If you keep active you won't die.
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Oci-One.Kanubi
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Calling them (completely)bad would be a stretch, but I'm going to let my membership lapse. I've lost faith in them.
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Dale
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For real? Why, exactly?
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DangerJudy
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On a local issue, they are pandering to a few, over the wishes of the many.
Dale
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Standard MO for them.
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Louie
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From what I have personally observed, more bad than good
janedoe
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They don't handle critiziam well, even when it is in a humours form that even someone as dumb as Milt had the sense to
Louie
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Overwhelmingly good. Want to see what life might be like without AW, take a look at Canada
snowwrestler
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Quit talkin to the pro and talk to majority of Canadian boaters, Stop by my house next March and except for Shiver and
Louie
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