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Forum: LiquidLounge
Date: May 15 2008, 19:17 GMT
From: rlhartman

	NPR was discussing this yesterday, and today Congress passed the latest Farm Bill with a "veto proof majority": http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080515/ap_on_go_co/congress_food_energy; Folks on the NPR story were crying about how much farmer's expenses have gone up. That's certainly true - farmers use a LOT of fuel, and most fertilizers are made using petroleum products in one form or another. OK, so let's help farmers who are in financial *trouble*. But presuming their expenses are deductible like those in most other businesses, why should we be handing free cash to businesses that are making a profit?

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um... decker New

You don't mess with the Iowa Caucus son <NT> BoatCaptain New

god bless the farmers decker New

how else does the midwest get pork? roscoepwavetrain New

wouldn't you love to have a business or a job that if it didn't make the amount of income you wanted it to... decker New

i feel better because i know you care roscoepwavetrain New

I'm currently building a clocktower... stocking up on ammo and practicing nightly. <NT> decker New

as an example... one of my friends and an occasional BT lurker does this... decker New

Because the Dems and Repubs are locked in an eternal race to get the most farm lobby $ and votes, that and... Pinecricker New

look... little ms. sunshine has graced us with his presence decker New

Years ago, when my wife was getting her degree in Finance and Economics... rlhartman New

Didn't the Japanese subsidize the electronics (tv's, stereos, etc) and auto industry for many years? decker New

No, but if any fuktard wanted to subsidize our electronic entertainment and transportation, I'd say let them... Pinecricker New

This is another reason why a national sales tax is so much better than any income tax... rlhartman New

fear/emotion trumps logic... that's why! <NT> decker New

You are a F-ing Retard Mr.DeadLegs New

Don't forget to add in subsidized irrigation water, subsidized electric rates, lower property taxes and free CHEESE! <NT> Pinecricker New

my uncle who is a farmer had a great bumper sticker... ditchbitch New

my uncle who recently retired from the b.o.d. of a major pharm. corp. had a bumper sticker too... decker New

Why is it so difficult to photograph a group of farmers? Pinecricker New

why do you hate people that get dirty for a living? decker New

Dear dazed and confused, I don't hate anyone... Pinecricker New

where does YOUR MONEY come from? decker New

Because politicians are hypocritical, unprincipled whores? Chrisj New

Careful, you're lumping whores in with politicians. Not sure that's fair to the ladies. <NT> rlhartman New

I think the founding fathers would be very dissapointed with what's become of our GOV <NT> decker New

Seriously though, consider this... rlhartman New

would they still be able to approve of "the bridge to nowhere" then? decker New

Everyone would feel such increases, hence the outcry would be broad-based... rlhartman New

do people look at their paycheck stubs that show their witholdings? <NT> decker New

They could raise the rate, just as they can today- it would just be very visible. <NT> Chrisj New

One detail... Chrisj New

Thanks for correcting that. However, it still maintains that link to the individual... rlhartman New

Why is it better than a VAT? Gordo New

A VAT is taxation at every step in the production process... rlhartman New

VATS also create a cascading tax scenario Chrisj New

So that they can afford to take the day off to go vote... Oci-One.Kanubi New

Touche'! <NT> rlhartman New

The life of a farmer suks Mr.DeadLegs New

There's no doubt that farming is a tough business... Chrisj New

I wanted to say that but couldn't come up with the right wording.. rroberts New

Seemed like a good idea in 1936. Basic problem with programs like this is that davegg New

Rich Farmers?  What is that?  I grew up in Kansas on my families farm.... RUwet New

Nobody's talking about farmers being rich. Chrisj New

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