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Regardless of how you try to spin it, Obama fucked that one up...

Forum: Liquid Lounge

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"You didn't build that" SirFlipsALot New

...It was an incredibly stupid way of trying to make his point. He was pandering, his tone and his comments were insulting (even in their full context) and he deserves the heat he is taking.

You really gain nothing by trying to defend him on this one. He would have been better off apologizing, and learning from his mistake.

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I guess I can imagine a way of thinking that would find his main point insulting but I would have to be incredibly SirFlipsALot New

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start up you own business, run it for a decade or so, do what is necessary to make it successful... RandyH New

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I agree with all of that. But I still can't take 100% of the credit. That was his point. SirFlipsALot New

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You are reading the last sentence - the rest of us are reading the first paragraph... likes

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Which policies specifically? <NT> SirFlipsALot New

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Also, everything in the first paragraph is absolutely true. <NT> SirFlipsALot New

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Now you just sound like a whining liberal... Pinecricker New

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"when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative". Verbatim from the quote! SirFlipsALot New

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That is very contradictory to " If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."... likes

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Then what do you think he meant? Yeah he stumbled over that sentence but in the context of the speech it is clearly not SirFlipsALot New

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Its hard to say, his remarks and tone were quite harsh... Pinecricker New

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True. SirFlipsALot New

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Wow. Really? possum New

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Actually, there are more than two choices... Pinecricker New

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I for one hope he goes down in flames. SirFlipsALot New

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And that's where we differ. likes

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Those "offended people" are tickled pink, by the way. likes

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They would applaud a R who says: "We owe much of our achievements to the US Military for the freedom to prosper. <NT> arrmike New

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THIS GUY SirFlipsALot New

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I have yet to come across a right wing article or talk radio commentary that did not play the quote in its entirety... RandyH New

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Would your business have been as successful in Somalia? arrmike New

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That cuts both ways... Pinecricker New

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I agree with all of that. My main point was noting how the meaning had been twisted into something that wasn't intended. <NT> SirFlipsALot New

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It doesn't take much to twist a comment like that. Its stands on its own merits. <NT> Pinecricker New

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You should read that whole speech again and meditate on its meaning. SirFlipsALot New

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Only thoughtful remarks deserve thoughtful consideration... Pinecricker New

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HEY SirFlipsALot New

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Sure it can. arrmike New

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Sure it can. arrmike New

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Probably... RandyH New

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Somalia is probably a step up from the hellhole RandyH lives in janedoe New

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Not really, but probably not that much worse... RandyH New

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I do agree it was awkardly worded. SirFlipsALot New

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At best it was a risky message to float and poorly delivered. He got burned. <NT> Heineho New

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I agree. But what bothers me is the cynical assumption that we are too stupid to figure out what he meant. <NT> SirFlipsALot New

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Apologise for expressing the point badly? He's correct in what he's trying to say. Many so-called self-made men ezwater New

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Yep. Like I said, selfish. Delusional, really. <NT> SirFlipsALot New

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