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McConnell is busting a vein and Romney will not be talking about this going forward lest he commit an act of apophallation

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/28/in-2006-video-romney-calls-health-care-mandate-essential/

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and ....Barack Obama Was Against Healthcare Mandate Before He Was For It UFO New

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Romney helped design the ACA and piloted it in Massachusetts. It took him ezwater New

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And there's never been a mandate. You won't have to choose an insurance plan. If you don't, ezwater New

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People who don't buy health insurance eventually cost the rest of us b6 New

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No Subject <NT> DangerJudy New

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Only because we force hospitals to provide services to anyone and everyone... likes

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-3 rlhartman New

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What's the "conservative" alternative? b6 New

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[Sound of only crickets] <NT> Rahark1 New

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At least the crickets (vs the Rs) have SOMETHING to say <NT> b6 New

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what are they supposed to do? let people die on the street? <NT> DangerJudy New

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Do a better job of separating those who can't from those who won't... likes

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-2 RandyH New

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How would we make them fend for themselves? <NT> DangerJudy New

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Got any practical suggestions for that? peterelkon New

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A good start would be to list those with verifiable physical/mental handicaps as the can't... likes

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-1 RandyH New

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So I guess your OK with the whole "death panel" thing? b6 New

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You say "adequate" health care. Who defines that line? Should the rich be able to buy better health care? rlhartman New

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Why don't you just ask a Canadian? b6 New

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make that a "Brit" (not Brut) <NT> b6 New

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Your "terminal care" and other drastic measures are where a huge part of medical costs lie. You cannot brush them aside. rlhartman New

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And: What sort of political dustups will result when some non-rich people die because gov't refused treatment? rlhartman New

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Do your own research b6 New

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So your plan is "hope that it all works out"? Just do everything you believe in and we'll have utopia? rlhartman New

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No. My plan A was single payer - universal coverage but thanks to paranoid conservatives b6 New

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So this "universal coverage" plan - does it have limits? Can the rich buy services beyond those provided by it? rlhartman New

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Here's the answers to your questions... b6 New

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Rather than discuss your favored plan, you provide a link for "dumbasses". I guess we HAVE your answer, then. rlhartman New

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We already sort people according to diagnosis and try to treat accordingly. peterelkon New

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At one time, communities supported charity hospitals that took care of those without funds lrcable New

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Shriners hospitals take Medicaid and are grateful for it. peterelkon New

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I don't totally disagree, but it did shifted the burden to the taxpayer lrcable New

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There's always problems when folks don't have skin in the game. peterelkon New

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That's the idea behind Health Savings Accounts (HSA's). They work great! rlhartman New

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I was viewer # 232 of that video b6 New

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He's evolving. SirFlipsALot New

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Evolving = FlipFlop in their language <NT> Zork New

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anyone who watches that video and can still defend Obama I feel sorry for. UFO New

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So vote for a Mormon. SirFlipsALot New

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there are a couple reasons to be happy... rustyboater New

health insurance companies are immoral bloodsuckers b6 New

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The modifications that the Republicans forced on the system have to be thrown out Zork New

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Quite a few "I am going to secede from this country" posts out there. Zork New

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So do you agree with socialist? <NT> yaknman New

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Socialism. Did you pay for the roads you drive on? Personally? How about the police, schools, firefighters, military? <NT> likes

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Actually, yes I did and still are paying for all of the above. lrcable New

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Commie. <NT> Zork New

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Exactly. <NT> SirFlipsALot New

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Commie. <NT> Zork New

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Our DOD and defense industry are more socialist than not. <NT> ezwater New

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The VA is a classic, single payor, SOCIALIST health care system b6 New

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Ask any doc who's worked in the VA system. You wouldn't want that for you and yours. <NT> Heineho New

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I am a VA doc and I would KILL for the healthcare that vets recieve. sue New

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My father is currently in a VA health care facility. b6 New

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I worked for a provider who had a contract with the VA to transfer patients from and to the VA hospitals in Arkansas. Gordo New

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You going to answer that reply to you? You got something to support that statement? Rahark1 New

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5yrs first hand experience in VA. Most inefficient and ineffective environment I've ever worked in. <NT> Heineho New

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Interesting, two views from experience at polar opposites, yours and Sue's. Gordo New

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Not sure, but it seems like they are talking about different things. peterelkon New

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The VA would be much better off if we would stop getting into unnecessary wars. Each war costs a lot, so aftercare ezwater New

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I doubt that the majority of VA cases are service related lrcable New

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