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Murder is worse than rape.
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The recent chatter about Planned Parenthood reminded me of this quote from Edward Abbey....
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SirFlipsALot
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How did you come up with that determination?
cbk1
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actually, I can think of lots of situations where I'd feel murder would be justified, but none where rape would be.
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janedoe
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A person who is raped can still choose to live a fulfilling life. Not so with a murdered person such as fetus..
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SirFlipsALot
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if a fetus is a person...
rustyboater
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There are plenty of people on life support right now. Does that make them not people suddenly?
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SirFlipsALot
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A tumor consists of cells, like a fetus
Zork
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A tumor doesn't have a unique DNA strand that is seperate from its host.
SirFlipsALot
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sorry to point this out...
rustyboater
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The is not enough of a difference between "will become" and "is" to justify killing.
SirFlipsALot
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Omg
Zork
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You must have slept through Biology.
SirFlipsALot
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Semantics. No fertilized egg without the necessary ingredents
Zork
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<INTERNET THREE STOOGES HEAD BONK>
SirFlipsALot
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It is logically impossible to prove that a fetus is a person. You can believe it as an act of faith if you wish.
ezwater
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Can you agree that abortion ends the potential for a person?
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SirFlipsALot
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Sure.
peterelkon
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Everyone deserves a chance.
SirFlipsALot
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If you got off your soap box, I might be glad you got a chance, too.
peterelkon
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Sure. You know, I never said abortion should be illegal.
SirFlipsALot
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Dunno.
peterelkon
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Oh lord, I have a societal parallel between abortion and execution forming in my head. MUST LEAVE NOW.
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SirFlipsALot
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Yes, and so does not making sure that every egg that travels down a Fallopian tube gets fertilized
janedoe
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Unfertilized eggs are not people. Neither are sperm.
SirFlipsALot
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fertilized eggs are not people. Your unique DNA argument isn't any better for fish or pelicans than it is
ezwater
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69 children born to one woman!
peterelkon
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woah now...you just changed your position...
rustyboater
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"No one has a right to tell a person what to do with their body"
SirFlipsALot
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I'm really reluctant to step in here because my personal views on this entire subject are very complicated, but...
Gordo
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But that's not our fault.
SirFlipsALot
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It still reflects on your definition.
Gordo
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Yes it does.
b6
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of course not
rustyboater
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You used the argument that independence is necessary for personhood, not me.
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SirFlipsALot
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you're still reaching...
<NT>
rustyboater
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for a rubber mallet...
<NT>
SirFlipsALot
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you'll need something closer to a ball-peen...
rustyboater
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Do unto others....
<NT>
SirFlipsALot
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