First of all, I would like to say that I am a huge Dagger fan, and that I am not trying to start a "this company's plastic sucks, get this company's boat" argument. With that comment out of the way, something weird happened last night. We were loading up the boats after the roll session, and while I was in the shower rinsing my gear off, I guess the clubs new Dagger Outlaw fell over (it was leaned against the wall on end) and got a 3 inch crack in it right through the boat. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. The plastic did seem thin there, but I'm sure it wasn't that hard of an impact. Some things to keep in mind though, I didn't see it happen....it could have hit something sharp when it fell. Also, it could be a simple manufactor's error, which warrantee will cover. It hasn't been sent in yet obviously. Still, I didn't like the look of that. It' seems to me with Dagger that right about the time they started putting the adjustable seat in, their plastic got really thin (around time the Fuges/Ego's came out). Whey they first came out with their super xl linear, those boats were tough. They felt as strong and stiff to me as a Crosslink boat. A few weeks ago I sat in an ID, and it felt very flexy. I turned the boat over, and the hull under the seat flexed like saran wrap. It had like a half inch of play. This, along with that boat that just broke, has really got me concerned with where boat plastic really stands. How many of you would not be concerned if your boat fell off the car loading it, or going around a turn too fast? I've seen it with older linear Perception and WS boats, and they just bounce. How many boats would "just bounce" today? Does anyone have experience with recent Dagger boats breaking or oilcanning early? I am still considering getting a G-Force, and want to demo an ID. Like I said before, I'm not trying to attack any boat company or plastic, but sometimes it just seems like when companies put thinner lighter plastic in boats, they just don't have same older durability. I know alot of people now go though boats fast, but if your new toy breaks or oil cans right from the beginng, what fun is that? I also want to point out that new plastics and developement in that area is good. Maybe someday we will find the holy grail of boat plastic. It just seems like we have a ways to go.