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smile Let me get this straight, you honestly believe that the rating system is there to protect those who can't read water? New

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Re: question Lower Gauley rapid ratings SRsteelheader New
Re: note Mash and PSH are class IV.   Gnar_Star New
Re: question How does length of a rapid increase its difficulty? Wilko New
Re: note Longer requires better endurance, longer concentration. <NT> cR@ViN_W@VeS New
Re: smile I agree with that, but does it make it more difficult to control your boat through each part of a longer rapid? <NT> Wilko New
Re: note Is it harder to run an obstacle course after a short jog or a marathon? snowwrestler New
Re: note Sure, and thanks for clearing that up: because that doesn't change the difficulty of the obstacle course. Wilko New
Re: question Should the class rating reflect difficulty or danger? Flanman2 New
Re: smile You voice exactly the biggest problems I have with that interpretation of the international WW difficulty scale. Wilko New
Re: question So is supposed to be a difficulty scale or danger scale? Flanman2 New
Re: feedback I'm leaning more towards the difficulty scale. Wilko New
Re: disagree But ratings are for everyone, not just the experienced and expert. DangerJudy New
Re: gack Once again trying to read something in my words that I didn't write, Judy? Wilko New
Re: note So how is someone who cannot read water  supposed to be able to use the ratings DangerJudy New
Re: feedback To get a basic impression about a river, like from reading a guidebook. Wilko New
Re: note I do not agree.   Without the danger element added to the rating, DangerJudy New
Re: smile Fine, so don't agree. I don't care what someone else rates a rapid, I'll look and judge for myself. Wilko New
Re: note fine DangerJudy New
Date: Oct 01 2008, 14:47 GMT
From: Wilko

" That's my point.   The rating system protects people who have not had the experience or  do not yet have the skill to know better"

So this isn't about rating some rapid's difficulty, it's about protecting people from themselves? To protect people who are unable to read water from going in over their head?
Next you're going to suggest that rapids should have signs upstream from them, warning people that they are dangerous, and that they might get hurt or killed when running them.

This sport has an inherent risk and danger factor, no matter how much you seem to want to take that risk and danger away. There is no way to make it perfectly safe, but the most effective way to limit risk and danger is by educating and teaching people. Someone going on a river at higher levels won't encounter the same difficulties as someone running it at lower levels. Next you're going to suggest adding water levels and relative difficulties. Where does that sliding scale end?

People have to take responsibility for their own actions, not blaming a book or someone else when a rapid turns out to be a lot more difficult or dangerous than they imagined it would be. There is no such thing as a safe rapid, but there is such a thing as safety-consciousness, scouting and basing the decision to run on skill, a risk assessment and a good gut feeling. A rating will not replace that.


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