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Re: question Surfing Zeronine New
Date: Jun 03 2008, 6:42 GMT
From: Rocky


If you paddle onto the wave with a ferry angle a ferry is what you will get ;-)

You will start to ferry across the wave and you would have to carve back to stay on.
This is not really a big deal when you are in the right boat and or have got some surfing experience.
It is even one of your goals to acchieve; once you are carving back and forth you are actually surfing.

BUT

to get started you must make it as easy as possible for yourself.
The less ferry angle you put in the less you have to correct.

So next time when trying to paddle onto a wave (from an easy eddy) do NOT "paddle like hell with a ferry angle out onto the wave face" but try to "float" onto the wave as perpendicular as possible.
Do not go too high into the eddy but paddle up from behind under a small as possible angle, trying to place your butt just in front of the peak of the wave.

Too much speed will bring you too far in front of the wave and the current will drag you back (or catch your nose).
In the ideal situation you would float sideways onto the face of the wave without any forward/backward momentum.

The trick is to adapt your forward momentum to the speed of the current you have to cross before actually getting onto the wave.

Catching waves on the fly is all about killing your backward momentum.
Start with small ripples / waves in relatively slow moving water where you can actually paddle upstream (or at least maintain position) above the wave.
Then you can experiment with the speed with which you let yourself drift onto the wave.
Again the goal is to move so slow that your backward momentem does not drag you over the peak of the wave.

On these slow moving water waves you can also practice the floating onto the wave from the side. You do not need an eddy since you can paddle upstream.

On big waves on very fast flowing water it is not possible to attain the wave witout any backward momenteum but there you will try to minimize it by paddling like crazy and lining up to hit the biggest foampile.

Hope this helps,
ralph









Essentially, I can't seem to stay on the waves.  I have had some pretty good ones to try, with strong eddies leading to the wave face, and I can't seem to get it.  Basically, I paddle like hell with a ferry angle out onto the wave face, and I can get there, but I can't stay out.  Most of the time, my upstream edge at my bow starts getting water piling up over it, and I have to lean downstream so my edge doesnt get caught and flip me, at which point I flush off the wave.  Am I giving up too early?  I think if I just try to lean/carve into that ferry angle and get perpendicular to the current I might stay out there, but then again I might wind up upside down. I just haven't had enough tries at it yet.

I haven't had any success catching any on the fly from upstream yet either, but I think I'm probably trying that on waves that are too small.  

Any pointers you can give are appreciated. 
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