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The gyst: get rid of 60% flows but don't "schedule" releases New
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Re: Updates on the Green River Mtg. last night? <NT> tweetybird New
Date: Jun 30 2007, 12:59 GMT
From: HarrisonMetzger
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The meeting was moved from 6:30 to 9 p.m. because the Green ran from 3-7. I ran the upper and there were no cars in the parking lot at 4:15 and 25 there when we got back, so that was a good call. Many of those paddlers went to the meeting, I would say about 50 attended.
According to Woody and Sara, the fishermen and TU have already established a constructive relationship with the Duke official who manages flow on the Green River.
As a local business person representing the kayaking community Sara was invited to one of their meetings.The fishermen, like us, are interested in establishing a flow regime that eliminates dumping water from Lake Summit at nightime.
Some fishermen prefer 60 percent, some prefer no flow, but TU agreed they would like to have a UNIFIED position with the local boating community (If only we could have that kind of relationship with the Rabun County chapter on the Chattooga!) The fishermen, according to Sara, will support getting rid of nightime flows and holding the water for 100 percent daytime releases. This, she noted, presents a huge opportunity.
The fishermen drafted a letter and asked for our input. The letter suggested holding back water earlier in the week and releasing it on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
A number of paddlers at last night's meeting were critical of that approach. Their concern was that if Duke establishes regular release days like TVA has on the Ocoee and Progress has on the Pigeon, the Green will be inundated with out-of-town paddlers. Many boaters said they love the current system of calling up in the morning and finding out if the Green is running, then "busting ass to get down there." (That is exactly what I did to run the Upper yesterday). Local boaters who moved here because of the Green and have structured their life around it don't want it to turn into the Ocoee. A common thought was that the Green could not handle that kind of heavy use and bringing it on would be a mistake.
A consensus emerged that we ask the fishermen to modify their letter to take out the reference to certain days of the week, but leave in the request to Duke to eliminate nighttime flows and save the water for 100 percent daytime flows. The fishermen would like these flows to not start until 7 a.m. to give them time to fish on the lower with the water off.
Sara was amenable to asking the fishermen to make the changes to the request. She is willing to continue working with the fishermen and Duke on this issue and on this modified position on behalf of paddlers, even though I am sure her business would benefit more from a regular schedule of releases. Let me say I am glad she is willing to take on this role as liaison for the Green River paddlers, and that she was willing to seek input from everybody before moving ahead.
I am a Green River local who has been paddling the Upper Green for 20 years. If I got anything wrong or some of you see the meeting differently, feel free to say so.
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I for one think this localist attitude is BS. I feel a splinter group of boaters SHOULD form an alternative negotiating TonyRobinson New
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Localist? The fact is, its a drought year. tcookson New
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My contention isn't with the weather, but with the letter protarying only local concerns and the lack of representation TonyRobinson New
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and nobody is saying any different. I have yet to meet a local who .... RUwet New
Your right is is everyone's water, that is why there was a meeting last night. crankee New
Say what Tony??? crankee New
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The letter you want to send was modified "by consensus" (of local paddlers) to remove any request for some bias towards TonyRobinson New
I wonder how many "Green locals" enjoy paddling scheduled runs like Tallulah, Cheoah, etc? Pinecricker New
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You ever paddle the green? comparing it to tallulah or cheoah? c'mon man, you are smarter than that.. RUwet New
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AW did a shit ton for access to the Green. farmschooler New
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Good to know! The story I got was.. RUwet New
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My understanding on this topic is not complete. farmschooler New
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ok, thanks for the info. <NT> RUwet New
AW was ready to purchase land for a new access and NCWRC kiboshed it canoeman New
I want to, but it's darn near impossible to... Pinecricker New
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well, hopefully we can get something worked out that will benefit everyone... RUwet New
The only way to help access is to buy a key selmaraid New
not impossible at all. G New
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Just takes a little motivation <NT> selmaraid New
<No Subject> DaveMcG New
The consensus reached at last night's meeting was Mexicano New
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Why is a comparison Irrelevant? They are dam release rivers just as the Green is. TonyRobinson New
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Again, this is simply NOT A LOCALS ISSUE, but common sense ... Mexicano New
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If it isn't a "locals Issuse" then why has the formulation of the boaters "consensus" been formulated with only locals TonyRobinson New
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not just locals, bub G New
there were paddlers from south carolina, Kentucky, Georgia, one half mexican and one from Argentina... <NT> coote New
Tony,you are completly full of shit! The meeting was announced on a sprinkle New
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Kieth, I agree with you. I have been something of an a'hole and the Knoxville scene is frickin' lame. <NT> TonyRobinson New
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Fire 'em up Tony! Tera New
The consensus reached at last night's meeting was Mexicano New
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I would personally somewhat agree with the consensus reached last night, but I'm not ok with it being represented as the TonyRobinson New
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OK, then move here. GRITS New
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Of course you are trying to keep out of towners away. The main opposition to scheduled releases it that it would bring TonyRobinson New
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You were - there were posts on BT announcing the meeting. If you can't attend, then write a letter. GRITS New
Here's an idea.... farmschooler New
Excellent point, Tony chrisharjes New
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Thank you for having a balanced attitude. <NT> TonyRobinson New
You can't make all of the people happy all of the time selmaraid New
Locals structure their lives around GNAR laps? LoBro New
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You should Laugh and Feel whatever emotions you'd like. Gabriel New
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- <NT> RUwet New
I have long thought there should be NO conflict between paddlers and fishermen. This is AWESOME to see the two groups... GRITS New
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Paddlers vs fishermen... southeastcreekin New

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