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75' Butte Creek Falls -  Winter Update Film HuckinHuge New

<No Subject> <NT> KELLMAN New

Next "must-have" piece of kayaking gear - the breakdown helmet. :-) NT K1er New

 

Winter Mix video RodeoClown New

nice. driving up to massachusetts last saturday i saw a few cars with creek boats on 81, i was wondering what kinda clay54 New

Nice Jeremy BMan1 New

 

more iv vs. v stuff paddlingphool New

Class V is Class IV without a boat ga_creeker New

horsepasture <NT> megoindisco New

Coming Home Sweet Jesus. jimmichaud New

my prediction was paddlingphool New

Or maybe, just maybe, the universe of potential commenters is very small poppo187 New

I find difficulty in classifying a section of a river using a system intended to classify individual rapids... AdamS New

 

Looking for a Nomad + Information on getting a boat to New Zealand. Chucky New

have you considered just getting the boat in NZ? tonyvarvoutis New

 

Great cheap watch for Paddlers/climbers/every day wear... climb4 New

Awesome, just picked one up. <NT> JoeMamasDrawers New

Great add! I'm sold. <NT> Will_Carry New

 

Rafting is a sport of brotherly love... uh....or something like that... G New

That is oh so wrong and totally hilarious.  Reminds me of... Leland New

bahhhahahahaha <NT> KELLMAN New

Public sodomy on youtube?  What next? Leadership in airport restrooms? <NT> ezwater New

That's got nothing on skiing jkodadek New

I just don't want to know what led to THAT <NT> BMan1 New

Deleted scenes from Deliverance? <NT> EricS New

that guy was relentless! talk about grabbing the bull by the horns! <NT> Kuusk New

 

WNC Flash Flood Warning, 3-5 inches...   Be careful on flashy creeks like the NFFB zElGuapo New

North Fork Resevoir. tiskemanis New

be careful about flashing creeks!!.....   <NT> BLUEEZ New

 

Jackson All Star backband cord grip squidaxon New

give JK a call BoyGenius New

I had same problem prd New

 

'Slave to the Rain' Premiere Tuesday Night in Atlanta! Gorman New

Any Asheville premiere planned? tiskemanis New

When can we buy one??? Where??? How?? yespe1 New

It will go on sale online next week...I'll be posting details soon Gorman New

Sounds cool how much it cost? <NT> canoe90 New

 

Anyone got Tuesday or Wednesday off and would like to paddle? wcuvaulter35 New

I am free to boat Wed, Thurs, Fri....Who's with me? Gorman New

i am. Kuusk New

Im ready mikesong New

sounds good wcuvaulter35 New

Drive to VA for some Reed Creek and I will join you, its worth the drive!!! vspkayaker New

Reed Creek Beta? prd New

Please, NO beta on BT... Gorman New

 

No parking at normal Green (Narrows) put in tomorrow.... crankee New

If it's an extended "eviction" I'd ask for a pro-rated portion of the rent. <NT> Yall_Watch_This New

You'd have to cough up some cash 1st wouldn't ya? YubaBlue New

didn't see the "Only" part.  oops. <NT> Yall_Watch_This New

I talked to Mrs. Ring and she said they'd be loading supplies in through the parking lot tomorrow. <NT> tybo99 New

 

h20 paddles waterwingmaster New

You should get in touch with Appomattox, Rocky Mountain Kayak, or Blue Mountain Outfitters... Gavin_Rains New

NOC use to have them- might not now though. <NT> Jayrockin New

 

Gauley Fest 2009 need to know dates for Vac time peterboroughcrew New

yes, surprising because that's the 2nd weekend of fall release season tickamyer New

 

Need info from Jefe owners......the more replies the better hardboater New

6' 165lbs half forward worked fine for me <NT> drewaustell New

5' 7" 150 lbs All the way forward YubaBlue New

6', 165#.  Trimmed w/ bow ~1" higher than the stern.  No idea where that is seat-wise <NT> tcookson New

5'7" -- 145 pounds -- about 1/4" back from center on Jefe #4 and they've all been good at about that spot (for me). <NT> farmschooler New

5-8 165 inseam 28  All the way forward On my second boat <NT> komushio New

bad methodology lowspark New

I get your point, but my methodology isn't so bad.... hardboater New

Seems like a good stategy to me selmaraid New

just sayin... lowspark New

5'7" 155lbs,I like mine all the way back. <NT> sprinkle New

6'3 200lbs Middle to half back or buy a Grande.   <NT> WookieBreath New

5'10 and 150 fahimaz7 New

<No Subject> diamonddee New

5'9   185 pounds  i like it as far forward as possible, as with all other boats <NT> clay54 New

dang yall are all a bunch of lil farts... Moniker_Lewinsky New

jefe jfishe16 New

 

Possible new state record waterfall descent video! Leland New

That was great! bluntmasterE New

This is awesome! ERASteve New

Jeez......  I guess a lot of hours on the road will do that to ya huh? hardboater New

I knew when I saw that sluggish brown water that something was awry... nice stuff! <NT> ugadelta98 New

I don't think even Tao would of touched that one. <NT> newtonte New

I would walked it.  it is too much for a WV boy <NT> komushio New

BS! you would have hand paddled your ducky over it while laying down backwards. <NT> donutboy New

sick 1D bro brahs, mad props on the footie and laying the smack down on le gnar gnar. G New

We almost called you that morning... Leland New

Not to poach your conversation, but when I was at Ole Miss, we had a worst snowstorm they had seen in ................. Terrell New

what year was that? Oxford had a good snow in late 90s G New

1984/1985 school year.  In about 1992 or so, there was a huge snowstorm in the south when we lived in Huntsville, AL.... Terrell New

Can I have that 2:20 minutes of my life back?  snoozer vid. <NT> zElGuapo New

Damn, don't be such a hater!  That video is awesome.  Some of us don't live close to................... Terrell New

thanks for sharing! <NT> russellfork New

Nice Delta Blues soundtrack.   FluidDruid New

That's not the highest runnable drop in the state. Leland New

that shot really brings the whole ELF "I can piss more than that" thing to a new level <NT> jkodadek New

I'm pretty sure that image was my dad's intent when he chose his stance for the photo. <NT> Leland New

G told me andria New

Andria, here's the link to the "big'un" I had seen G New

OMG andria New

Yeah!  I cross over the flat part heading west for Iuka Springs....which actually flow, FluidDruid New

I'm feeling left out. Can't get the vid to open! <NT> love2kayak New

It's a quicktime vid. Leland New

Got it, thanks! <NT> love2kayak New

me either!!  stupid computer <NT> clay54 New

dude that was S!K <NT> Kuusk New

<No Subject> nfbk New

Hate to rain on your parade, but I hucked that drop back in '92... Lochsa_Jones New

what did you get in kansas? shredder New

haha...sending this vid to my friends/fam in MS. <NT> backbonz New

 

my paddle is getting long in the tooth & short of blade, so let's talk wood paddles! mtnsport New

Pothole.  Period. Yall_Watch_This New

I've had my Pothole paddle for 6+ years.  Its a good paddle. DRRPM New

go with the riverstyx.......it will be worth it over the long run. Bradley New

Agree.  although i am not a jimistyx user, i have a backlund. worth the money <NT> whirlybird New

Love the backlund as well! Bradley New

Answer is still no.....  It's now part of my "suddenly it's 1982" paddling ensemble. <NT> ezwater New

I have more paddles than any three people should have. Bradley New

You know I'm a sucker for anything over 200 cm, but what exactly is a "big slasher"?   <NT> ezwater New

Backlund Slasher nfbk New

The one for sale is a Pothole Bradley New

Jimi does beautiful work and his sticks are tough. I'm pretty hard on equipment but his sticks stand the tests. Dale New

Cons PoBoy New

Pothole glasses the shafts. Bradley New

I removed the glass from mine, too jkodadek New

Sometimes you have to toss a paddle up on the rcoks.... hardboater New

Ok, but what about the other 2 scenarios? PoBoy New

Matt, you're right about the need for spot maintenance on wood shafts, but it's often as important on carbon shafts ezwater New

Ive been looking at wavedog...... helix149 New

i love my woody... tnredshoes New

Check out Sawyer too MinorThreat New

i own 4 of them, so...... roscoepwavetrain New

customization is schweet... and well worth it. (more inside) tonyvarvoutis New

wood! DukeWavewalker New

 

Winter Paddling Clinic in Johnson City, TN wildwildwes New

 

Tellico Gage love2kayak New

There is already a gage there, it's located at the internet reporting station and the gage (more inside) ditchbitch New

The gauge is safe until June. If you write those letters, it'll be safe for a long time. <NT> slimerboy New

Brandon is correct, and there is contact information and form letters on the site also...it only takes 5 minutes ...just ditchbitch New

 

All Star query dermo99 New

I'm pretty much exactly the same size as you... blake_gt New

Thanks to both dermo99 New

Your Feet are going to go Numb in a playboat <NT> TerminalEddy New

you have a hip pad problem BoyGenius New

Thanks! dermo99 New

<No Subject> euphoria New

Remember!  Don't drill all the way through! BoyGenius New

Follow on dermo99 New

you got it! BoyGenius New

More input... WAVEYDAVEY New

Ta - again dermo99 New

Sounds like a hip pad problem for sure. cbk1 New

 

Drysuit feedback - has anybody tried both the Kokatat Tropos and the IR Entrant materials? yakdaddy New

<No Subject> boater_10 New

kokotat tropos versus goretex feedback OkieBoater New

 

Mountain Surf or Skirtworks ...  How do they compare? love2kayak New

Very similar YubaBlue New

Mt Surf = good people good product, Skirtworks = shady people rodeowonderboy New

Skirtworks people are far from shady... John is the one that skipped town  to avoid paying taxes = thats shady pinnacle New

Really? selmaraid New

taxes, that's a new on. PS Composites is a 5 min drive from skirtworks. so big deal <NT> rodeowonderboy New

Mountain surf is still the best. BoyGenius New

mt. surf don't answer their phone or their email smoot New

Skirtworks has fantastic customer service kwhilden New

I Wanted to believe in Mt. Surf but was disappointed several times... drewaustell New

 

dealing with painted rocks---> adakovizual New

Why would you not want to use a pressure washer? If you didn't use chemicals in it? <NT> love2kayak New

some people use a slurry of stream sand in a pressure washer---> adakovizual New

Perhaps try Graff-Off (now called Mark-Off) DangerJudy New

working link... DangerJudy New

that could be dangerous judy :) adakovizual New

I dunno. DangerJudy New

All Whitewater contaminated with the chemical Dihydrogen Monoxide! getsgarth New

There a few possible ways ncpat New

why not paint them rock colors? euphoria New

Why remove it at all? BMan1 New

Second that.... Windham New

Leave it alone gevans New

studies have shown that if you remove it right way there is a... adakovizual New

 

NPFF 2009 Yall_Watch_This New

I'll post this over on the BWA forum....hopefully get you an answer WAVEYDAVEY New

Thanks.  Actually have the ability to make the trip this year... Yall_Watch_This New

 

TR: Mosier Falls, OR davehoffman New

Wow!  Very impressive <NT> pmalatin New

Nice, Dave! <NT> williepdx New

 

Hello, Cumberland Plateau! cravincreeks New

that's more like - Hello LRC AL! or SE in general. Jayrockin New

 

What makes a run Class IV vs Class V? Garrick New

a quote from colorado rivers and creeks: Kuusk New

Still a step back Garrick New

its the same idea... Kuusk New

There is nothing on the Ocoee that I would consider to be class 4 nixon_boatertalk New

really- Mikey's, Alien Boof, Blue Hole, Roach Motel, HUMONGOUS...even Tablesaw is close to class IV. <NT> Jayrockin New

sorry- I didn't see the"middle" Ocoee in the post itself. Jayrockin New

Broken Nose has been the hardest on the Middle for me Garrick New

one other thing... Kuusk New

AW can be more reliable than you might think nixon_boatertalk New

I agree.  Rivers like Tullula, NC/Cain, Caney Fork and Watauga should be rated IV+ (V).  To me this means mainly class smitho New

If there's only one disproportionately hard drop, it should be listed in parentheses curtis_elwood New

It depends on who you are trying to impress. Will_Carry New

so true, funny how it seems---> adakovizual New

That's hilarious (and true!) - though the original question is a good one - brief serious answer below poppo187 New

I can agree with this nixon_boatertalk New

Lower Keeney is ugly at low water. <NT> Will_Carry New

you're a "4+ boater" and you won't run lower keeneys's at low flows? oopsiflipped New

I ran lower keeny down to -2.5ft (in a kayak) and would still call it class IV Kuusk New

I would rather run Lower Keeny at 8' than minus 2.5'. Will_Carry New

Not about impressing anyone...... Garrick New

The river sets it's difficulty.. fahimaz7 New

Watauga as an example: bankfull1 New

and from that comes these questions: bankfull1 New

That's why I like some of the other systems out there Garrick New

your last sentence is the best rule to go by bankfull1 New

I disagree strongly with you on Tallulah... poppo187 New

A portage ain't class 5 till you have to break out ropes. Bradley New

I'm glad to see this post, Brad - been a while since a good old fashioned "back in my day" post! <NT> poppo187 New

 

Random gear for sale... ChrisG New

sent you an email <NT> KELLMAN New

Really? Gearswap wasn't big enough to contain the link to your blog? The admins should look into this limitation <NT> Dan New

If I put the vest and helmet on, will I have super Kayak powers too? <NT> redrock438 New

 

Dry Suits: Any input on Palm Stikine VS Kokatat Meridian Gore-tex or other favorites <NT> drewaustell New

input G New

I wore a dry suit for the first time this weekend. bluntmasterE New

just to add to G... mtnsport New

Here are the differences in the Kokatat and Palm................... Terrell New

drysuit psa spoke New

 

Review of Level 6 mitts. K1er New

Don't be wary....make this mod. Guelo New

 

New Gages added, and old ones re-painted on Waldens Ridge in Tenn (List Inside) ditchbitch New

Let's go run McGill and Roaring the next time we get a good rain on a weekend <NT> Dooleyoc-1 New

exactly...that's why i fixed them...now if could get some real rain :) <NT> ditchbitch New

Thanks for your time and paint! bluntmasterE New

No worries...the gages needed it...and I've made them easier to read for older eyes :) <NT> ditchbitch New

 

almost 3/4 of an inch on a scattered shower in Cumberland Co today LiquidO New

 

What is your favorite class IV run in the SE? <NT> ybnrml New

Watauga <NT> tiskemanis New

Class IV? Garrick New

Tellico Garrick New

definitely Watauga. Leland New

Watauga... crankee New

Another Vote for Watagua, NC folks have it really good. Snakenjahbone New

tallulah, wilsons, watauga.......based on driving distance. <NT> Bradley New

but Upper Yough and Big Sandy are the two best class 4 runs I have paddled! Bradley New

Top Yough Upper Yough combo.... hardboater New

Johnnies Creek, AL ...at good water. granolapaddler New

Johnnies ROCKS @llie New

Any one that you're on while I'm enjoying myself on a low-ego run. <NT> ezwater New

My favorite Class 3 run is Town creek minus blockage, class 2 would be Sec 2 <NT> Snakenjahbone New

I'm itchin' to do Town Creek, even if I have to paddle 4 miles of lake into the wind. <NT> ezwater New

The hike out is worse than the lake paddle... Pinecricker New

That's what I've heard, and that hike-out has been closed by landowner issues. <NT> ezwater New

Is there an alternative take out now? Pinecricker New

That was discussed on BT recently. My impression was that it didn't look hopeful.   <NT> ezwater New

Many favorites, but Cheoah >1,300 is on the list... Pinecricker New

Tremont is a really fun after work Class IV Smokies run.  Watauga and Johhnies are hard to beat too. <NT> Dooleyoc-1 New

Upper Conasauga is fun pristine-water IV in a beautiful wilderness. North Chick is hard to beat. FluidDruid New

Those are 2 I haven't had the luck or pleasure of running Snakenjahbone New

Unless you mean the upper-upper Conasauga, I would say it is class 3 with a portage. ezwater New

Not in SE, but did the Marathon Gauley for the 1st time this year Snakenjahbone New

watauga <NT> russellfork New

Tied: Caney Fork and Cain/North Chick <NT> HortonVM New

Caney Fork has one of the highest concentrations of class IV in the SE curtis_elwood New

North Fork French Broad, Lower Big Creek, Little River Canyon Suicide/Upper Two GRITS New

suicide, cain - are those considered class iv? paddlingphool New

Seems like a stretch YubaBlue New

i wouldnt call suicide class IV clay54 New

but i agree, LRC is absolutley beautiful! <NT> clay54 New

tallulah <NT> paddlingphool New

LRC upper 2 wbrown New

The notorious B-I-G Creek baby! <NT> sprinkle New

 

I sold my Medium Burn BLUEEZ New

thanks for the rain ScottBarnes New

You can borrow mine... andria New

 

Kayak Raffle to Benifit First Descents tobinjd New

 

Karnali Medium lottery_winner New

Just back and out of the military. Ordered up both a M & L candice1173 New

<No Subject> MCskid New

 

If you timed yourself last year in the Iceman, what was your time? <NT> ybnrml New

 

Please, any and all comments/feedback on Fluid Kayaks <NT> PHILZZZ New

I realy like my Fluid solo exp. model.  I finally got the rear hatch water tight.  great all around boat, the back band embudojudo New

How'd you get that thing sealed? stvandev New

I have been paddling the solo for about a year now... Kuusk New

Paddled a Solo a couple of times lottery_winner New

Fluid Solo L tiskemanis New

A good friend has a bunch of cracks in his... bamaboater New

Every boat company has a bad boat some time.  We cover all warranty issues... Gavin_Rains New

I can vouch for that... Kuusk New

less than 1% failure rate? you guys should be consulting for some other co's. <NT> cdd New

How could you possibly know what other company's failure rates are? crankee New

fluid greendancerpdx New

 

What will run in the SE tomorrow? <NT> basebaby New

the best river in the south east Kuusk New

the best river in the south east Kuusk New

your refrigerator, you better go CHASE it. tiskemanis New

 

Roll Class la29 New

you need more parctice than help just keep trying joshlerner New

 

Upper & Middle Ocoee ran today, suppose to run again on Sun. Skully New

Thanks Rob.  Middle definitly looks good for tomorrow.  Upper?  Link inside.  Drop do